Once I completed the INT% analysis and write-up, I considered a statistic to rate defensive backs’ overall impact on opponents’ passing games, as a alluded to at the close of the last post. Ambitiously, I compiled official NCAA statistics for teams and players from 2004, the first year in which pass deflections were officially tracked, through 2014.1 By the time I compiled all the necessary data and organized it, I had other ideas.
“What does an interception represent for a player and his team?”, I wondered to myself sitting in a theatre watching Pixels. Interceptions represent the gain of possessions for a player's team and the loss of possessions for opponents. That led me to this notion of a statistic to represent the proportion of possessions a DB recovered for his team via his impact on the passing game (i.e., via interception). Or, in other words, the volume of opponents’ possessions a DB ended.
Because team opponent possessions statistics were less than accessible for me, I simply tabulated estimates. To do so I summed each of all TDs scored, FGs, turnovers, punts attempted, and safeties for team offenses 2004 to ‘14, plus the quantity of games (to account for opening or halftime kickoffs). I would have included team attempted FGs but those were unavailable to me and also, blocked kicks but I got lazy. (Fortunately, for NFL stats, team opponent drive statistics appear readily accessible.)
Jayron Hosley defends a pass. |
At onset, I anticipated wanting to somehow weight the values in the numerator and denominator to reward the DB whose offensive teammates were counterproductive. For instance, in 2010 Jayron Hosley of Virginia Tech intercepted 9 passes. In 2006, John Talley of Duke intercepted 7 passes. For the seasons in reference, Hosley’s ended 5.4% of opponents’ possessions and Talley, 5%, proportionately. The Possessions Ended formula puts Hosley at .59 (8th highest) and Talley at .55 (tied for 12th highest).
In 2010, VT finished 11-3 and 8-0 in ACC play whereas in 2006, Duke finished 3-9 and 1-7 in ACC play. Hosley’s 2010 offensive teammates relinquished only 13 turnovers and scored 80 times whereas Talley’s 2006 offensive teammates relinquished 31 turnovers and scored only 28 times. Thus, Hosley’s offensive teammates increased his PRE more so by scoring whereas Talley’s offensive teammates increased his PRE more so by fumbling and throwing interceptions.
Table 1 appears at the bottom of the page and includes the basic proportional possessions ended, the Possessions Ended, and Possessions Recovered, as well as the rankings for the latter two stats. I included in Table 1 players who were top 25 in Possessions Ended and Possessions Recovered to provide the reader some perspective on the nuance of Possessions Recovered. With Possessions Recovered we see that 2006 John Talley has risen to the number-one spot with 61.3% of PRE whereas 2010 Jayron Hosley has plummeted to 320th with 9.6% of PRE. We also find for instance, Chris Prosinski, presently three years into his pro-career, sitting at 14th with 30.3% Possessions Recovered. Prosinski picked off 3 passes in 2008 for a Wyoming team that turned the ball over 36 times and scored only 26 times. Possessions Recovered is also sensitive to interception totals as 2014 Gerod Holliman was at 8th with 34.1% for a Louisville team that committed 26 turnovers and scored 66 times.
John Talley manufacturing yardage. |
Let us return to the players discussed in my example above. Jayron Hosley was drafted in the third round of the 2012 draft by the New York football Giants. Some would describe his professional performance as "unsatisfactory." But what about John Talley?
John Talley is one of 4 players for whom I had three years of data. His junior and seniors seasons rank in the top-10 of Possessions Recovered. But what became of Mr. Talley? Talley was rated 33 of 218 cornerbacks available in the 2007 NFL draft. Fellow 2007 DB prospects Leon Hall, Darrelle Revis, et al. are currently active on NFL rosters but like Al Worley before him, Talley passed undrafted (Worley: 172.3% of PRE for a 3-5-2 UW team with 38 TOs and 23 scores).
Talley’s pro-day weight of 171lbs is 20lbs under the average of the top-30 projected CBs in the 2007 NFL Draft. Perhaps a pro-day 40yd-dash of 4.61s resulted in Tally’s exclusion from the NFL Combine. None of first-30 CBs had 40yd-dash times slower than 4.56. The top-30 averaged about 15 reps on the 225lb-bench press; the lowest quantity, 10. Talley did 9. His 9’11” broad jump was slightly below average of 10’1” and a 32’6” vertical jump was below the average of 35’3”.
Talley’s 3-cone drill time of 6.77s was faster than the average of 6.96s and faster than 75% of the top-30. Considering 60 CBs drafted since 2005, Talley’s 6.77s on the 3-cone drill is in the 72nd percentile. Considering 170 WRs drafted since 2000, Talley’s 6.77 is in the 78th percentile, suggesting Talley may have possessed the agility necessary to compensate for the cutting and curling routes run by NFL receivers, many of whom would outsize, outleap, and outsprint him.
Talley deflects a pass targeted for Young Megatron. |
Talley held Johnson without a TD catch in ’05 while deflecting 1 pass and intercepting another. In ’06 however Johnson grabbed 2 TD catches only playing in the first half—due, at least partially, to a counterproductive offense that failed to keep Duke in the game. Of Talley’s 2 deflections of passes targeted for Johnson in ’06, one led to an interception.
I briefly reviewed the box scores for the 2005 and '06 games, and by my estimation Johnson was targeted 8 and 7 times, respectively. If the box scores read accurately, then Talley actively defended (i.e., INT or deflection) 25% of passes targeted for Johnson in 2005 and 28.9% in '06.
Aside from Johnson’s TD production, his stat lines are nearly identical in the two games. Johnson suggested that he was triple-teamed in ’05; Talley contended otherwise but acknowledged that Johnson did demand “extra attention.” Likewise, Talley’s defensive production was similar in both games. Of Johnson’s 2 career tackles, 1 was of Talley in ’05. Summarily, in two showdowns with Talley, Johnson's production was tantamount to his collegiate averages.
We know what Megatron became and what he continues to become. But as for Talley, his Twitter profile indicates that he is now a father. Since completing his BA in African American Studies at Duke in 2007, Talley earned his MBA back in 2012. From what I can gather, he currently teaches sixth grade mathematics.2 In my opinion, following 18 years of education, Mr. Talley offers fair test-correction and tutoring policies to his students. Likewise, his expectations of classroom behavior are reasonable. Let us hope that as an educator, Mr. Talley’s pupils fare better with him than Calvin Johnson did—that is, let us hope Talley's pupils fare better than average.
Player | Year | Program | PE Rank | PR Rank | G | INT | Opp. Poss. | Team TOs | Team Scores | Basic % | PE | PR |
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John Talley | 2006 | Duke | 12 | 1 | 12 | 7 | 139 | 31 | 28 | 0.05 | 0.55 | 0.61 |
Lionell Singleton | 2006 | Florida Int'l | 109 | 2 | 10 | 5 | 142 | 26 | 20 | 0.04 | 0.39 | 0.50 |
Stanley Franks | 2006 | Idaho | 3 | 3 | 12 | 9 | 145 | 26 | 36 | 0.06 | 0.68 | 0.49 |
Domonic Cook | 2010 | Buffalo | 75 | 4 | 12 | 6 | 155 | 33 | 29 | 0.04 | 0.43 | 0.48 |
Anthony Smith | 2005 | Syracuse | 68 | 5 | 11 | 6 | 152 | 27 | 27 | 0.04 | 0.43 | 0.43 |
David Amerson | 2011 | NC State | 2 | 6 | 13 | 13 | 166 | 25 | 59 | 0.08 | 0.86 | 0.37 |
John Talley | 2005 | Duke | 109 | 7 | 11 | 5 | 142 | 26 | 29 | 0.04 | 0.39 | 0.35 |
Brian Lainhart | 2009 | Kent St. | 32 | 8 | 12 | 7 | 156 | 28 | 40 | 0.04 | 0.49 | 0.35 |
Gerod Holliman | 2014 | Louisville | 1 | 9 | 13 | 14 | 178 | 26 | 66 | 0.08 | 0.87 | 0.34 |
Anthony Harris | 2013 | Virginia | 18 | 10 | 12 | 8 | 167 | 26 | 42 | 0.05 | 0.53 | 0.33 |
Trae Williams | 2006 | South Fla. | 22 | 11 | 13 | 7 | 149 | 29 | 47 | 0.05 | 0.52 | 0.32 |
Jack Williams | 2005 | Kent St. | 248 | 12 | 11 | 4 | 146 | 31 | 30 | 0.03 | 0.30 | 0.31 |
Khayyam Burns | 2006 | Arkansas St. | 181 | 13 | 12 | 4 | 129 | 30 | 33 | 0.03 | 0.34 | 0.31 |
Chris Prosinski | 2008 | Wyoming | 430 | 14 | 12 | 3 | 151 | 36 | 26 | 0.02 | 0.22 | 0.30 |
Anwar Phillips | 2004 | Penn St. | 191 | 15 | 11 | 4 | 132 | 27 | 31 | 0.03 | 0.33 | 0.29 |
Morgan Burnett | 2008 | GT | 12 | 16 | 13 | 7 | 139 | 27 | 52 | 0.05 | 0.55 | 0.29 |
Senquez Golson | 2014 | Ole Miss | 4 | 17 | 13 | 10 | 165 | 25 | 58 | 0.06 | 0.67 | 0.29 |
Sean Baker | 2010 | Ball St. | 75 | 18 | 12 | 6 | 155 | 31 | 46 | 0.04 | 0.43 | 0.29 |
Rahim Moore | 2009 | UCLA | 4 | 19 | 13 | 10 | 165 | 24 | 56 | 0.06 | 0.67 | 0.29 |
Eric Berry | 2008 | UT | 10 | 20 | 12 | 7 | 135 | 18 | 36 | 0.05 | 0.57 | 0.29 |
Julius Stinson | 2007 | Wyoming | 146 | 21 | 12 | 5 | 153 | 31 | 41 | 0.03 | 0.36 | 0.27 |
Dion Byrum | 2005 | Ohio | 60 | 22 | 11 | 6 | 146 | 18 | 30 | 0.04 | 0.45 | 0.27 |
Reggie Corner | 2007 | Akron | 37 | 23 | 12 | 7 | 158 | 25 | 45 | 0.04 | 0.49 | 0.27 |
Chaz Williams | 2005 | ULM | 87 | 24 | 10 | 5 | 134 | 25 | 38 | 0.04 | 0.41 | 0.27 |
Charles Gordon | 2004 | Kansas | 25 | 25 | 11 | 7 | 152 | 23 | 44 | 0.05 | 0.51 | 0.26 |
Dwight Lowery | 2006 | SJ St. | 6 | 26 | 13 | 9 | 151 | 21 | 52 | 0.06 | 0.66 | 0.26 |
Kevin Sanders | 2008 | UAB | 16 | 27 | 12 | 7 | 146 | 25 | 50 | 0.05 | 0.53 | 0.26 |
Quinten Rollins | 2014 | Miami (OH) | 14 | 35 | 12 | 7 | 142 | 20 | 44 | 0.05 | 0.54 | 0.25 |
Quintin Demps | 2006 | UTEP | 19 | 43 | 12 | 7 | 147 | 25 | 57 | 0.05 | 0.52 | 0.23 |
Ryan Smith | 2006 | UF | 11 | 54 | 14 | 8 | 157 | 24 | 63 | 0.05 | 0.56 | 0.21 |
Daymeion Hughes | 2006 | Cal | 9 | 87 | 13 | 8 | 153 | 22 | 69 | 0.05 | 0.58 | 0.18 |
DeAngelo Smith | 2007 | Cinci' | 24 | 93 | 13 | 8 | 173 | 26 | 74 | 0.05 | 0.51 | 0.18 |
Larry Parker | 2011 | SD St. | 22 | 164 | 13 | 7 | 149 | 16 | 59 | 0.05 | 0.52 | 0.14 |
Manti Te'o | 2012 | Notre Dame | 15 | 186 | 13 | 7 | 143 | 15 | 62 | 0.05 | 0.54 | 0.13 |
Darcel McBath | 2008 | Texas Tech | 19 | 203 | 13 | 7 | 147 | 21 | 86 | 0.05 | 0.52 | 0.13 |
Joe Pawelek | 2008 | Baylor | 19 | 270 | 12 | 6 | 126 | 11 | 52 | 0.05 | 0.52 | 0.11 |
Robert Lester | 2010 | 'Bama | 7 | 274 | 13 | 8 | 145 | 14 | 77 | 0.06 | 0.61 | 0.11 |
Jayron Hosley | 2010 | VT | 8 | 328 | 13 | 9 | 168 | 13 | 80 | 0.05 | 0.59 | 0.10 |
Anthony Wright | 2009 | Air Force | 16 | 336 | 13 | 7 | 146 | 12 | 68 | 0.05 | 0.53 | 0.09 |
Al Worley | 1968 | Washington | 10 | 14 | 136 | 35 | 23 | 0.10 | 1.13 | 1.72 |
Notes:
1 All data were obtained directly from the Division 1 Statistics listed on NCAA.org; spreadsheets available upon request.
2 Although I do attempt to provide the reader novel content, I refuse to make this an expose on a man's private life. But with some digital digging I was able to find this indicating Mr. Talley's status of educator. I have made an attempt to conceal identifiers of Mr. Talley's whereabouts and contact information in respect to his rights to privacy.
3 Shown at bottom is PE and PR for Al Worley. Team data for Al Worley were obtained from UW media guide here.
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